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		<title>Comment on Fluidinfo as a concordance by Nicholas Tollervey</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/2011/04/fluidinfo-as-a-concordance/comment-page-1/#comment-9597</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Tollervey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Apr 2011 08:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi! Great blog post!

Regarding the &quot;lafnlab/redirect-to&quot; tag. We&#039;ve started to see a convention where people use a &quot;related&quot; tag. This has taken several forms:

ntoll/related
ntoll/related-objects
ntoll/related-books

So the rule of thumb is to use related-foo where the &quot;foo&quot; qualifies what the relationship might be. If you just want to say something is related to something else then use just &quot;related&quot;.

However, I really like the semantic content of &quot;lafnlab/redirect-to&quot; since it shows that you think I&#039;m looking at the wrong object. In itself, this is valuable information. I think I&#039;ll start using this as a convention too (thus demonstrating another cool way in which Fluidinfo is &quot;social&quot;).

This is great stuff. Keep it up!

PS You should join us in the #fluidinfo chan on Freenode IRC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi! Great blog post!</p>
<p>Regarding the &#8220;lafnlab/redirect-to&#8221; tag. We&#8217;ve started to see a convention where people use a &#8220;related&#8221; tag. This has taken several forms:</p>
<p>ntoll/related<br />
ntoll/related-objects<br />
ntoll/related-books</p>
<p>So the rule of thumb is to use related-foo where the &#8220;foo&#8221; qualifies what the relationship might be. If you just want to say something is related to something else then use just &#8220;related&#8221;.</p>
<p>However, I really like the semantic content of &#8220;lafnlab/redirect-to&#8221; since it shows that you think I&#8217;m looking at the wrong object. In itself, this is valuable information. I think I&#8217;ll start using this as a convention too (thus demonstrating another cool way in which Fluidinfo is &#8220;social&#8221;).</p>
<p>This is great stuff. Keep it up!</p>
<p>PS You should join us in the #fluidinfo chan on Freenode IRC.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmortem &#8211; what works, what doesn&#8217;t, lessons learned by Eric Seidel</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/postmortem/comment-page-1/#comment-9596</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Seidel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Apr 2011 20:32:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, just so you know, you can find a list of O&#039;Reilly books just with the query &quot;has oreilly.com/title&quot;. I believe the only items tagged by oreilly.com are books (at least for now).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, just so you know, you can find a list of O&#8217;Reilly books just with the query &#8220;has oreilly.com/title&#8221;. I believe the only items tagged by oreilly.com are books (at least for now).</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmortem &#8211; what works, what doesn&#8217;t, lessons learned by lafnlab</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/postmortem/comment-page-1/#comment-9594</link>
		<dc:creator>lafnlab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 23:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Found that I can use the query &lt;em&gt;fluiddb/about matches &quot;book&quot; and has oreilly.com/title&lt;/em&gt; to find O&#039;Reilly books, but I&#039;ll need to figure out what to do with books from other publishers. It&#039;s another baby step in the process, though :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Found that I can use the query <em>fluiddb/about matches &#8220;book&#8221; and has oreilly.com/title</em> to find O&#8217;Reilly books, but I&#8217;ll need to figure out what to do with books from other publishers. It&#8217;s another baby step in the process, though :-)</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmortem &#8211; what works, what doesn&#8217;t, lessons learned by lafnlab</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/postmortem/comment-page-1/#comment-9592</link>
		<dc:creator>lafnlab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 04:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I&#039;ve found out about fdb, so that will save me some trouble with future coding and looking up stuff. I thought the About Tag blog was just for the &quot;Visual Representation&quot; bit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I&#8217;ve found out about fdb, so that will save me some trouble with future coding and looking up stuff. I thought the About Tag blog was just for the &#8220;Visual Representation&#8221; bit.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Postmortem &#8211; what works, what doesn&#8217;t, lessons learned by lafnlab</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/postmortem/comment-page-1/#comment-9591</link>
		<dc:creator>lafnlab</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 03 Apr 2011 02:46:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[NOTE: I&#039;m too lazy to login ATM, so I&#039;m just writing it as a comment instead]

Lately, I&#039;ve been thinking more about possible projects that might come of this competition entry. When working on the entry, the idea was to make a site that pulled the basic (fair use) info about the books from Fluidinfo and list them alongside their other versions (i.e. foreign editions, audiobooks, etc). This wouldn&#039;t just be for O&#039;Reilly books, but for all books. The oreilly.com info would be a starting point, but the idea is to potentially include all books (thinking big). Then came the idea about a search engine for books. I&#039;m still not sold on that idea, but the ideas are very fluid (no pun intended) right now.

There are places to find info on books, but they&#039;re walled gardens, and Fluidinfo is aiming to make some sets of data more accessible to everyone - sharing the database. 

The starting point of the project would be for me to code a webpage that queries Fluidinfo for books. Earlier today I used &lt;a href=&quot;http://explorer.fluidinfo.com/fluidinfo/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Fluidinfo Explorer&lt;/a&gt; to do this. I entered &lt;code&gt;fluiddb/about matches &quot;book&quot;&lt;/code&gt;, but this was imperfect. While there were a lot of books, too many of the objects that were returned were urls to pages at GoodReads, BoingBoing, or other sites. The project would have to have some way of filtering the results. Ideally, it would only return the objects that follow the pattern &lt;em&gt;book:some book title (some author)&lt;/em&gt;. After the object is pulled, the code should also pull look for tags such as: isbn, publisher, copyright, etc. Maybe if this data was missing, there would be some way for me to flag it - to either query Fluidinfo at a later date, or to tell me (or someone) to search for more info (kind of like the stub flags in Wikipedia). 

However, Fluidinfo doesn&#039;t seem to have that many books at the moment, so I would try to code another page that allows me (or maybe anyone???) to enter book objects. This is separate from the tags for isbn, url, title, publisher, etc. This page would strictly be for entering book objects. This is good if there are only a few books, but if there are dozens or hundreds to enter (say in a csv or tsv file), then it would be better to make some sort of script to enter this info. I might tinker with that in the coming weeks. 

One possible problem with this is if there is an object that already has that data (an object with that name already exists). Presumably, Fluidinfo will return an error in that case, and the script would have to take the error into account.

Since I&#039;m big on multilingualism, any project would probably sniff the USER_AGENT string and localize to the user&#039;s language. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[NOTE: I'm too lazy to login ATM, so I'm just writing it as a comment instead]</p>
<p>Lately, I&#8217;ve been thinking more about possible projects that might come of this competition entry. When working on the entry, the idea was to make a site that pulled the basic (fair use) info about the books from Fluidinfo and list them alongside their other versions (i.e. foreign editions, audiobooks, etc). This wouldn&#8217;t just be for O&#8217;Reilly books, but for all books. The oreilly.com info would be a starting point, but the idea is to potentially include all books (thinking big). Then came the idea about a search engine for books. I&#8217;m still not sold on that idea, but the ideas are very fluid (no pun intended) right now.</p>
<p>There are places to find info on books, but they&#8217;re walled gardens, and Fluidinfo is aiming to make some sets of data more accessible to everyone &#8211; sharing the database. </p>
<p>The starting point of the project would be for me to code a webpage that queries Fluidinfo for books. Earlier today I used <a href="http://explorer.fluidinfo.com/fluidinfo/" rel="nofollow">Fluidinfo Explorer</a> to do this. I entered <code>fluiddb/about matches "book"</code>, but this was imperfect. While there were a lot of books, too many of the objects that were returned were urls to pages at GoodReads, BoingBoing, or other sites. The project would have to have some way of filtering the results. Ideally, it would only return the objects that follow the pattern <em>book:some book title (some author)</em>. After the object is pulled, the code should also pull look for tags such as: isbn, publisher, copyright, etc. Maybe if this data was missing, there would be some way for me to flag it &#8211; to either query Fluidinfo at a later date, or to tell me (or someone) to search for more info (kind of like the stub flags in Wikipedia). </p>
<p>However, Fluidinfo doesn&#8217;t seem to have that many books at the moment, so I would try to code another page that allows me (or maybe anyone???) to enter book objects. This is separate from the tags for isbn, url, title, publisher, etc. This page would strictly be for entering book objects. This is good if there are only a few books, but if there are dozens or hundreds to enter (say in a csv or tsv file), then it would be better to make some sort of script to enter this info. I might tinker with that in the coming weeks. </p>
<p>One possible problem with this is if there is an object that already has that data (an object with that name already exists). Presumably, Fluidinfo will return an error in that case, and the script would have to take the error into account.</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;m big on multilingualism, any project would probably sniff the USER_AGENT string and localize to the user&#8217;s language.</p>
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		<title>Comment on O&#8217;Reilly Fluidinfo API Competition by Terry Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-9589</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BTW, if you stop by the #fluidinfo channel on irc.freenode.net (you&#039;ll need an IRC client program, in case I&#039;m making no sense), we can probably help you get going on the coding side of things, or find you someone who can.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BTW, if you stop by the #fluidinfo channel on irc.freenode.net (you&#8217;ll need an IRC client program, in case I&#8217;m making no sense), we can probably help you get going on the coding side of things, or find you someone who can.</p>
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		<title>Comment on The contest by Terry Jones</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/the-contest/comment-page-1/#comment-9588</link>
		<dc:creator>Terry Jones</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:40:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi. Can you tell me what sorts of things we&#039;re missing?  Ah, I see... foreign language edition information.

We made the API without input (or data) from O&#039;Reilly. Only when we were done did we really tell them about it :-)  I&#039;d been saying for a long time that we were going to do it, but the thing which got the attention was to finally say &quot;ok, it&#039;s done&quot;.

Thanks for entering the competition. I think you&#039;re onto a good idea as the non-English speaking/reading segment of the world seems to be quite large :-) Being able to browse O&#039;Reilly titles and see links to foreign editions would be great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi. Can you tell me what sorts of things we&#8217;re missing?  Ah, I see&#8230; foreign language edition information.</p>
<p>We made the API without input (or data) from O&#8217;Reilly. Only when we were done did we really tell them about it :-)  I&#8217;d been saying for a long time that we were going to do it, but the thing which got the attention was to finally say &#8220;ok, it&#8217;s done&#8221;.</p>
<p>Thanks for entering the competition. I think you&#8217;re onto a good idea as the non-English speaking/reading segment of the world seems to be quite large :-) Being able to browse O&#8217;Reilly titles and see links to foreign editions would be great.</p>
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		<title>Comment on O&#8217;Reilly Fluidinfo API Competition by Nicholas Tollervey</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/about/oreilly-fluidinfo-api-competition/comment-page-1/#comment-9587</link>
		<dc:creator>Nicholas Tollervey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Mar 2011 14:25:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, I&#039;m the guy that did the scraping / import of the O&#039;Reilly data. You&#039;re quite right that the data is incomplete and sometimes messy. We did think long and hard about this situation and ended up coming to the conclusion that it presented an opportunity for entrants (as you have demonstrated). Glad to hear you found it not as hard as you expected. BTW... all feedback wrt Fludiinfo most welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, I&#8217;m the guy that did the scraping / import of the O&#8217;Reilly data. You&#8217;re quite right that the data is incomplete and sometimes messy. We did think long and hard about this situation and ended up coming to the conclusion that it presented an opportunity for entrants (as you have demonstrated). Glad to hear you found it not as hard as you expected. BTW&#8230; all feedback wrt Fludiinfo most welcome.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Review Haiku &#8211; Bring It On Again by Michael H</title>
		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/2011/01/review-haiku-bring-it-on-again/comment-page-1/#comment-9582</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jan 2011 15:26:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, I&#039;ve actually watched all of the films in this series</description>
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		<link>http://www.gottahavacuppamocha.com/2010/10/review-haiku-inception/comment-page-1/#comment-8902</link>
		<dc:creator>Philip K Dick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Jan 2011 00:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete Postlethwaite is called as God rounds up... The Usual Suspects Lol!</description>
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